Episode 35

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Published on October 11, 2021

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Transcript and Show Notes:

Mike Ercolano (00:00):

What’s up, everybody. Thank you for listening to NextGen Radio. This is a podcast for those of you who want the truth and nothing but the truth when it comes to diet, exercise, and all things health. This is episode number 35 and I’m Mike Ercolano. I’m here with my co-hosts Kelly Krauss and John Esposito, and we are about to fill the next 30 minutes or so of your time with some super exciting health and fitness stuff. So, if that’s what you’re interested in, welcome.

Mike Ercolano (00:34):
I don’t know, I’m trying to extend the intro to keep the listener’s attention, but I don’t know. It’s not working.

Kelly Krauss (00:41):
All right. We’re here, we’re here.

John Esposito (00:42): We’re all here.

Mike Ercolano (00:43):
I don’t think I have either one of yours attention either because you’re looking down at your phone and…

Kelly Krauss (00:48):
I was just trying to find something.

John Esposito (00:48):
I’m trying to find good quality information.

Kelly Krauss (00:50): Yeah, I was too.

Mike Ercolano (00:50): Ah, cramming last minute.

John Esposito (00:52):
Yeah, of course. That’s how I got through college. Last-minute cramming.

Mike Ercolano (00:55): Yeah, I understand that.

Kelly Krauss (00:57):
I’m a planner, so I’ve let myself down with today.

Mike Ercolano (01:00):

You didn’t plan beforehand?

Kelly Krauss (01:02): Not really.

John Esposito (01:03):
But you were saying you were trying to.

Kelly Krauss (01:04):
I put thought into it, but I came up with nothing. That’s not acceptable. I have to come up with something.

Mike Ercolano (01:10):
You’re right. Yeah, that was not acceptable.

Kelly Krauss (01:12): Right.

Mike Ercolano (01:14):
No. That’s right, I didn’t plan anything either, but I never do. I mean, that’s not true. Sometimes I do.

John Esposito (01:20): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (01:21):
Yeah, we just got to get better with that.

John Esposito (01:23): Yeah, we do.

Kelly Krauss (01:24):
Because you need time to think about it. You need time to research.

John Esposito (01:28):
Absolutely. Mike, you did queue a little interest in some topics I was reading on when you were asking about how our workouts are going.

Mike Ercolano (01:33): Yeah?

John Esposito (01:33):
Yeah. So, I was reading up on a new training… I guess, science behind some training. It’s the idea of 90 degree eccentric training. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of that, but it’s just-

Mike Ercolano (01:46):
No, I don’t think so. 90 degree eccentric training? Is that what you said?

John Esposito (01:50):
Yep. 90 degree eccentric isometrics is the full name.

Mike Ercolano (01:54): Okay.

John Esposito (01:54):
So, there is a good amount of new research out and a lot by one specific, I guess, performance coach, but he’s also a doctorate. He’s a physical therapist, doctor in kinesiology as well as everything else.

Mike Ercolano (02:10):
Remix. Sorry. That didn’t help either.

John Esposito (02:13):

For the life of me can’t remember his name, but a lot of his research and lot of the research that he based his training off of is about joint angles and about how musculature affects those joint angles and vice versa. How the joint affects… My God. English. How joint angles affect musculature. There’s been a lot of research in the past couple of years saying that that 90 degree angle, which we normally say is a baseline to get to, I would say, with a squat or most movements is actually the ideal positioning for most joints muscles and actually for majority of the body, for spinal alignment as well.

John Esposito (02:50):

Now, a lot of his training with high-end athletes… He trains a lot of quarterbacks, he trains a lot of sprinters, even bodybuilders. So, he’s got a lot of variety going into there. Are finding huge results just by real simple movements. Like a goblet squat, going down into a 90 degree angles, setting that in position, keeping constant tension throughout that, and then exploding out of that movement. But you get after isometric, which it allows the muscles to secure the joint, getting into that isometric at the bottom, after the eccentric. Which we know it’s forcing your muscles to squeeze, it keeps everything in position. But that is also helping to relieve injury, to treat injury, and to also prevent injury. So, there’s now about 250 studies included in his website.

Mike Ercolano (03:40):
Hm. What’s this guy’s name?

John Esposito (03:42):

It’s something Seedman. Or Joel Seedman, I believe. And a lot of his training has been going off of that, and he’s been finding results that have been supporting all the research as well. It’s not just lab-based, it was practice-based as well.

Mike Ercolano (03:58):


John Esposito (03:59):
These athletes that you’re seeing are some of the best of the best. You have, I can’t remember who the

quarterback was. Is it Heinicke or Heinky?

Mike Ercolano (04:11): I don’t know.

John Esposito (04:12):
He just had a good week, put up three touchdowns.

Kelly Krauss (04:16): Who is he with?

Mike Ercolano (04:16):
Oh, a current quarterback?

John Esposito (04:17): Yeah, current quarterbacks.

Kelly Krauss (04:18): Okay. So-

Mike Ercolano (04:20): So, bodybuilders-

Kelly Krauss (04:21):
… these are the people he’s trained and this is part of his study.

John Esposito (04:22): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (04:22): Okay.

John Esposito (04:23):
So, this is all part of his practice and-

Mike Ercolano (04:26): I’ll look him up later.

John Esposito (04:26):

… I was looking into it and it’s proven. Actually those angles support the right muscle activation of both glutes, quads, hamstrings, and a squat. Works the same for upper body movements as well. So, doing overhead press is coming down to a 90 degree, locking in that form, locking in that positioning, exploding out of that will work the same way. Prevents the joints from going past their quote-unquote end range of their limit, but you also still work into those end ranges. But getting to that 90 degree angle allows the muscles to secure the joint, building around that, and then you can actually bulletproof the joints to work better in bigger ranges after that.

Mike Ercolano (05:04): Hm.

John Esposito (05:06):
I don’t know if I’m explaining it right, but-

Kelly Krauss (05:07): Oh, yeah.

Mike Ercolano (05:08):
Yeah, no, I’m following you. So, now I’ve never heard of this guy. And so, I’d like to look into a lot more of it.

Kelly Krauss (05:15): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (05:16):
It’s interesting, because I use a lot of isometric stuff with either during stability work with athletes or with people who have pain.

Mike Ercolano (05:25):

So, for example, Vinny. You just stretched Vinny, he just walked out of here. He’s got two torn ACLs MCLs. Both his knees are banged up, but he obviously continues to train hard. So, a lot of stuff we do, especially when we’re not in a camp right now like we are… When he’s just general training, we do a lot of isometric work and we do a lot of isometric work during his warmup and during his, excuse me, prep and prime work, and it helps alleviate his knee pain.

Mike Ercolano (05:55):

And I found that isometric, I mean, without any studies or anything, just by doing it and anecdotally. So, it’s cool to hear that there’s some studies that back that up because I’ve just done it because we’d do it for a little while and he says his knee feels better and we trained.

John Esposito (06:10):
And it was just about… I think it was 250 plus articles that he has included on his website that support this idea of 90 degree eccentric isometrics. So, lowering phase of about four or five seconds, really getting the most muscular feel out of that, coming down to that 90 degree angle, and then supporting that trains those joints into their best position, trains those joints to stay secure in those positions, but it also translates to going past those positions as well when you go into less loaded-

Mike Ercolano (06:40):
Interesting. And I guess maybe once you go past those it’s more into the mobility training side of things,


John Esposito (06:46): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (06:47):
Well, we could talk about the kid you had in sports performance this week with his squat. That was truly

ass to grass, right?

Mike Ercolano (06:53): Yeah, it was terrible though.

Kelly Krauss (06:54): It was so, so low.

Mike Ercolano (06:55):

Not terrible. And because, he didn’t really know what he was doing, it was just terrible that it was actually better than what most people would be able to do naturally. Because that’s closer to what we’re naturally supposed to be doing than how we are now.

Mike Ercolano (07:12):

But the problem is, he, along with many of us, lack the stability to go that far down. He was going that far down, but his ankles were rolling in and his hip flexors. His knees were folding. He didn’t have the hip strength, the stability through his hips and the mobility in his feet and ankles to be able to go that low.

Mike Ercolano (07:31):
But naturally we should be able to sit in that position. In fact, we should be able to… That’s like if you go

to third world countries, that’s how they-

Kelly Krauss (07:40): How they hang out.

Mike Ercolano (07:41):
How they hang out, how they shit, how they take a break. They sit into that position.

John Esposito (07:47):
It’s actually, speaking of that you’re saying that’s how they shit, that’s actually the body’s natural

positioning for-

Kelly Krauss (07:52):

Like the-

Mike Ercolano (07:52): The Squatty Potty.

John Esposito (07:53): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (07:53):
The Squatty Potty. Exactly.

John Esposito (07:55):
I mean, about five or six years ago before I even saw the Squatty Potty, I used to be putting something

underneath my feet when I would go-

Kelly Krauss (08:00):
Well, it helps. It supposed to help the flow.

John Esposito (08:03):
Yeah, I had no clue about it and I was just like, “You know what?”

Mike Ercolano (08:06):
That’s how I get my calf work in.

John Esposito (08:08): Yeah?

Kelly Krauss (08:08): Really?

Mike Ercolano (08:08):
When I’m sitting on the john, yeah.

Kelly Krauss (08:10): Ah, interesting.

John Esposito (08:10): Push it up there?

Mike Ercolano (08:11):
No, I don’t do reps. No. I’m not sitting there doing calf raises while… I do read a book though.

John Esposito (08:19):


Kelly Krauss (08:19): That’s good.

John Esposito (08:21):
It is good. Yeah. It’s good that you

Kelly Krauss (08:22):
I have all kinds of reading the bathroom too. In fact-

John Esposito (08:23): Absolutely.

Kelly Krauss (08:24):
… I’ve invoked the rule no more phones in the bathroom.

John Esposito (08:26):
Mm-hmm (affirmative). You get sucked in.

Kelly Krauss (08:26):
Because they’re in there forever.

Mike Ercolano (08:29): Yeah, you get sucked in.

John Esposito (08:31): Oh, absolutely.

Kelly Krauss (08:31): It’s not okay.

Mike Ercolano (08:31): No.

John Esposito (08:31): You get sucked in.

Kelly Krauss (08:31):
Reader’s Digest is the perfect thing to have in your bathroom because their articles

John Esposito (08:34):

Yeah, it’s just interesting enough, but then it gets boring after a while.

Mike Ercolano (08:37): They still make that?

John Esposito (08:37): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (08:37): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (08:37): Really? I had idea.

Kelly Krauss (08:37):
I love Reader’s Digest.

John Esposito (08:39): Oh, yeah.

Kelly Krauss (08:40): I’m a big fan.

John Esposito (08:40): See-

Mike Ercolano (08:41):
I’m surprised it’s not just a virtual one now.

John Esposito (08:42):
My issue is I have Popular Science, a couple of the car ones in the bathroom. So, even if I don’t have my

phone, I’ll be sitting there for hours.

Kelly Krauss (08:50):
Yeah, I have nutrition magazines in there.

John Esposito (08:51): Yep.

Mike Ercolano (08:52):
I use my… Remember when I used to use that Pomodoro for doing work? That little timer thing. Is that

what it’s called? The little Italian tomato timer thing.

Kelly Krauss (08:59):

Oh, yeah. Yes, yes, yes.

Mike Ercolano (09:00):
Yeah, I use that in the bathroom when I’m reading.

Kelly Krauss (09:05): A tomato timer?

Mike Ercolano (09:05):
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Or else I’ll be there forever.

John Esposito (09:08): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (09:09):

It depends on what I’m reading or especially if I’m on my phone, but I’m very, I don’t know, regimented right now. So, I’m in a pretty good routine that I’m in there for 10 minutes. Set it for 10 minutes. Boom. I get my 10 minutes of reading done every morning.

Kelly Krauss (09:23):
Thank you. Maybe I’ll get a tomato timer for my bathroom at home.

John Esposito (09:25): Yeah, pop it in there.

Mike Ercolano (09:26): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (09:26): This is all you got.

John Esposito (09:28):
You see one of them walk in, give it a little twist real quick.

Kelly Krauss (09:30):
And I’ll keep it outside the bathroom so they can’t adjust it.

John Esposito (09:32): I like that.

Mike Ercolano (09:33): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (09:33):


John Esposito (09:34):
Yeah, because you can always push those things five minutes.

Kelly Krauss (09:36): Uh, yeah.

Mike Ercolano (09:37):
Oh, yeah. I mean, it comes along with the discipline of not doing that.

John Esposito (09:42): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (09:42): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (09:44):

But that’s why I like that instead of my phone, because if I’m on my phone I… Besides having the normal amount of ADD that we all have now with our phones, I think I have even worse ADHD. Well, I know I do because I’m taking freaking medication for it.

Mike Ercolano (09:59):

But I’ll go in and I’m like, “No, I’m doing one task.” And then all of a sudden two minutes later, I’m in a rabbit hole of something else. I’m like, “Fuck. I just told myself I wouldn’t.” Literally. So, if I have a timer on my phone, I’m screwed because I’ll snooze it and then I’ll just start Googling something or whatever. So, the little old school kitchen timer works perfectly.

Kelly Krauss (10:25): I like that idea.

Mike Ercolano (10:26):
And there’s something about the ticking.

Kelly Krauss (10:29):
It’s soothing? Like white noise?

Mike Ercolano (10:32):

It’s more… I mean, I guess you have meditative. It gets you more in the zone, especially when I’m reading or doing work. Well, I haven’t done it doing work. But reading, it gets you in the zone, it blanks out any outside noise. Even though it’s not very loud, it gives you that tempo to follow. So, I like it. Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (10:50):

So, if you are walking by my house at… Usually it’s about 5:00 AM, 4:45 AM, and you hear a little ticking coming from the bathroom.

Kelly Krauss (11:00): That’s what’s happening.

Mike Ercolano (11:01): That’s me in there reading.

Kelly Krauss (11:02): Okay.

John Esposito (11:03): All right.

Mike Ercolano (11:03): That’s me in there reading.

John Esposito (11:04):
Good to know next time we pass by Mike’s house.

Kelly Krauss (11:06): That’s right.

Mike Ercolano (11:07): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (11:09):
We can’t get in. We can’t get past your gate.

Mike Ercolano (11:11):
You can’t, you can’t. So, you have to tell me if you do, because if not, I’m pulling my gun out if somebody

coming through my door at 4:00 AM.

Kelly Krauss (11:16): Yeah, right?

Mike Ercolano (11:17):
That’s for sure. But yeah. So, going back to squatting, right?

Kelly Krauss (11:22): Yes.

Mike Ercolano (11:22):

That’s where this all came from?

Kelly Krauss (11:23):
This was all from John’s article.

John Esposito (11:23): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (11:26):

Or actually, isometric holds. Yeah. So, I mean, I said anecdotally. But yes, I have read, maybe not studies, but other performance coaches and trainers talk about using isometric holds and physical therapists using isometric holds to help with injury. So, that’s where… I didn’t just come up with a one . So, it’s interesting that someone’s actually taking that even further and doing a ton of studies into it.

Kelly Krauss (11:54):
I think we should incorporate it.

John Esposito (11:55):
He’s going full force. I mean, most of his training that I’ve seen on his page, on his website, is solely 90

degree eccentric isometrics. And the occasional full range of motion movement.

Mike Ercolano (12:07): Right.

John Esposito (12:08):
But it’s just to keep them secure, because high-end athletes are very injury prone, even though they are

trained not to be.

Mike Ercolano (12:15): Right.

Kelly Krauss (12:16):
Well, one of my favorites, the one and a half of a hold.

John Esposito (12:19): Yeah?

Kelly Krauss (12:19): A squat, yeah.

John Esposito (12:20):

Oh, yeah.

Kelly Krauss (12:21):
I really enjoy them. And you have to watch the clock. You can’t count by yourself, because if you count

by yourself it’s one, two, three.

Mike Ercolano (12:26): Right.

John Esposito (12:27):

Now, a lot of the benefit comes from both the amount of blood flow that goes into the muscles with those isometrics, with the eccentrics. That was one big part of his research that the blood flow increases significantly, which one-

Mike Ercolano (12:38):
More blood flow, more oxygen, more nutrients.

John Esposito (12:40):
Yep, less injury in there because-

Mike Ercolano (12:41): More recovery.

John Esposito (12:42):
… everything’s a little bit more pliable. But also at the same time, the nervous system fires up a little bit

harder as well.

Mike Ercolano (12:46): Nice. Right.

John Esposito (12:47):
To get into those eccentric, get into that isometric specifically, fires the nervous system 10 fold.

Mike Ercolano (12:52):
And I’m sure, I mean, I don’t know if it was part of the study, but I’m sure it fires up the cardiovascular

system too.

John Esposito (12:58): Oh, absolutely.

Mike Ercolano (12:59):
How many times do we have an isometric hold in our programming and it doesn’t look that-

John Esposito (13:04):


Mike Ercolano (13:04):
… hard. People don’t really think until they’re halfway through-

John Esposito (13:07): I mean, today.

Mike Ercolano (13:07):
… and their heart rate’s up and they’re… So, I like that. Isometric holds.

John Esposito (13:12): Yeah .

Kelly Krauss (13:12):
I think it should be in our next program.

Mike Ercolano (13:14): Send it over, yeah.

Kelly Krauss (13:15): Yeah, let’s do it.

John Esposito (13:15): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (13:15):

I’d like to follow him. I’d like to look more into him too. That’s pretty cool. And look, even just the basic principles of strength training, putting on muscle and muscle mass, time under tension is one of the key, if not the most important factor, for it. So-

John Esposito (13:32):
Absolutely. It’s a very-well rounded system.

Mike Ercolano (13:33):
… that isometric hold adds right into that. So, cool. Good stuff. What was his name again?

John Esposito (13:39): Joel Seedman.

Mike Ercolano (13:40): Joel Seedman.

Kelly Krauss (13:43):

Joel Olsteen.

Mike Ercolano (13:44): Joel Olsteen.

John Esposito (13:44):
He’s going to start preaching to us.

Mike Ercolano (13:45):
Yeah. Well, he could maybe isometrically hold his body off the ground, floating a foot off the ground.

And then I’ll believe all the shit he talks about and may get very, very rich off of.

Kelly Krauss (14:00):
Haven’t we learned from all of those guys when they live in their mansions and they drive these cars?

People are still following him and listening to him and believing in it?

Mike Ercolano (14:09):
Obviously enough to support that lifestyle.

Kelly Krauss (14:11):
And how… That’s not worth talking about, but it just amazes me.

Mike Ercolano (14:15):
We can’t get enough people to support us to live that lifestyle. We got to do something. Let’s start lying

to people. All we have to do is manipulate people and take their money. That’s what they do, right?

John Esposito (14:27): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (14:27): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (14:27):
That’s what all these rich people do.

John Esposito (14:29):
That’s a new business .

Mike Ercolano (14:31): Yeah.

John Esposito (14:32):


Mike Ercolano (14:32):
All right. We guarantee everyone’s going to have a six pack abs and ass like J-Lo, if you’re a female. And

ass like John, if you’re a guy.

John Esposito (14:42): I was going to say…

Kelly Krauss (14:45): Both of you. Or Vinny?

John Esposito (14:46): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (14:46): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (14:46): Yeah, Vinny.

Kelly Krauss (14:47): We could sell that one.

John Esposito (14:48):
I got told I can’t complain about my ass anymore because Vinny’s got a bigger one, so…

Kelly Krauss (14:51):
Well, we definitely can’t put him in a lineup. He’s in a league of his own.

Mike Ercolano (14:54): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (14:54): Between you two-

Mike Ercolano (14:56): He’s pretty ridiculous.

John Esposito (14:57): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (15:00):
I don’t know. Where were we going? Oh, we’re lying about what we’re going to provide people. We’re

going to do all that for you in a week, but you got to pay 50 grand up front.

Kelly Krauss (15:07): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (15:08): I think it’s fair.

John Esposito (15:09): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (15:09): I think that’s fair.

Mike Ercolano (15:10):
I mean, it’s life-changing.

Kelly Krauss (15:11): Of course.

Mike Ercolano (15:12): Legit life-changing.

Kelly Krauss (15:13): You’ll never go back.

Mike Ercolano (15:13): You’ll get relieved.

John Esposito (15:14):
You’ll never be the same afterwards.

Kelly Krauss (15:15):
Right. You don’t want to be.

John Esposito (15:17): No.

Mike Ercolano (15:18): All right. So…

John Esposito (15:19):


Mike Ercolano (15:20):
Joel Olsteen, make some room next door because we’re moving in.

Kelly Krauss (15:23): Yeah, we’re coming by.

Mike Ercolano (15:25):
No, but I’d like to follow that guy Joel. Maybe if he’s not too big for us, we can have him on the show

and talk a little bit about it.

John Esposito (15:32):
That’d be interesting. That’d be a good time to do.

Mike Ercolano (15:33):
All right, John, you’re on it. Reach out to him.

John Esposito (15:35):
All right. I’m going to give it a try. Ain’t direct enough on the page.

Mike Ercolano (15:38):
Speaking of big enough, have you guys seen the average weight gain of Americans during COVID?

Kelly Krauss (15:45): No, tell me.

Mike Ercolano (15:46):
Because it’s actually been all over the place a little bit. But-

John Esposito (15:48): Really?

Mike Ercolano (15:48):
No, no. I’m just trying to segue into what I’ve read, but it’s not working. It’s actually not all over the place

because the news will probably not cover that because they’ll just say, “Take a shot.”

Mike Ercolano (15:59):

But anyway, so the average American gained 29 pounds over the pandemic. I guess it’s still going on or whatever, but so 29 pounds. So, figure over 18 months, right? So, how many pounds is that per month? 1.6 pounds per month.

Kelly Krauss (16:22): 


Mike Ercolano (16:23):
All right. If we’re looking at 18 months. Now, the average normal rate for weight gain, because the

average American does gain weight every single year, is between 1.1 and 2.2 pounds per year.

Mike Ercolano (16:38):
So, during the pandemic… If it’s over yet, I don’t think it’s over. I don’t know if there’s going to-

Kelly Krauss (16:46):
They don’t want it to be over.

Mike Ercolano (16:46):
No, but I don’t know what-

Kelly Krauss (16:46): So, yes but no.

Mike Ercolano (16:48):

… constitutes a pandemic starting and ending. When is it over? Is it just when they’re like, “All right, it’s done.” Or does it have to fall below a certain amount of case numbers? Anyway, that’s for a different conversation. So, the average person, an American. An American. A-N. The average American. The average American.

Kelly Krauss (17:13):
You really worked that out.

Mike Ercolano (17:14):
I had to get it right. I had to get it right. It’s only fair.

Mike Ercolano (17:20):

The average American gained a year’s worth of weight, essentially, every month during the pandemic. So, just put that in… I mean, if we already had an obesity factor beforehand or an obesity issue beforehand, you imagine where we’re going to be at now or five years from now, or 10 years from now, if things don’t change? If the culture and the message and the society and the focus on health doesn’t change…

Mike Ercolano (17:52):

Just look at how fast the obesity rates have grown. I mean, in the past, I don’t know, 30 years, 40 years, they’ve quadrupled and probably more than that. Then what’s going on is not a natural progression, right? It’s all lifestyle. It’s a lifestyle change. It’s pretty clear. It’s very clear. It’s science, right? You got to follow the science. It’s a lifestyle change that’s causing this issue.

Mike Ercolano (18:17):

So, think about how much that has just been accelerated over the past 18 months now, right? Of how many people fall into that category. And that’s the average. So, obviously there’s a lot higher and a lot lower. I think median is usually a better way to look at it, to get a more fair perspective of what the middle looks like. But still, that’s a number that we could go off of. So, I don’t know. That’s just a staggering number, and it’s a sad number and a scary number because-

John Esposito (18:51):
A year’s worth in a month.

Mike Ercolano (18:51):

Yeah, essentially. So, I mean, what is the… I got this little BMI calculator thing, which I used to carry around with me all the time thinking I would use it, but I never used it. But it was from a… What is this? From a vagina doctor? What are they called?

Kelly Krauss (19:09): What? A gyno?

Mike Ercolano (19:10): It’s from a gyno, yeah.

Kelly Krauss (19:12): Why do you have that?

Mike Ercolano (19:14):
I took it from my former business partner years ago. Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (19:18):
Oh, he could have used that.

Mike Ercolano (19:18): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (19:21):
Was he using it for himself?

Mike Ercolano (19:21):
But I would assume maybe there was a client of his or something that had these. He had them in the

office, so I took one to use. But anyway, so-

John Esposito (19:30):
What is the average BMI? Between 25 and 30? Or is that the healthy range is 25 and 30.

Kelly Krauss (19:35): Ah, yeah. Well, you got to talk women or male.

Mike Ercolano (19:36): Let’s go.

John Esposito (19:36): I believe male is-

Mike Ercolano (19:37):
Let’s go on here. A healthy range, according to this, is, I guess, between 20-

Kelly Krauss (19:47): 18.5 to 25.

Mike Ercolano (19:47): 18.5 to 25.

John Esposito (19:48): Oh, wow. Okay.

Mike Ercolano (19:49):
Or 20 to 25. Yeah, 18.5 To 25.

John Esposito (19:51):
So, I mean, the average is probably between 25 and 35.

Kelly Krauss (19:54): Yeah. Oh, yeah. Easy.

John Esposito (19:56): At least.

Mike Ercolano (19:56):
Right. So, let’s just take the average female. Average American female. Female height and weight.

John Esposito (20:18): Let’s say 5’6″.

Mike Ercolano (20:21):

Sorry. This is all really good airtime right now while I Google this. All right, well this is as of 2016, but whatever. Close enough. A woman 20 years old and up, just under 5’4″ and 170. So, that’s the average female.

Kelly Krauss (20:38):

5’4″, 170? Above 20?

Mike Ercolano (20:40):
That’s what healthline.com says.

Kelly Krauss (20:43): Wow, okay.

Mike Ercolano (20:44): The average female-

John Esposito (20:45): Surprised about that number.

Mike Ercolano (20:46):
Yeah. The average female weighs-

Kelly Krauss (20:48): 5’4″ is little.

John Esposito (20:49): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (20:49): I’m 5’6″.

Mike Ercolano (20:52):
This is a… Oh, that’s the same website.

John Esposito (20:57):
170 was where I was at when I started with NextGen.

Mike Ercolano (20:59):
Women are generally considered tall in the United States. Yeah.

John Esposito (21:01): I was-

Mike Ercolano (21:01):
Women are generally considered tall in the United States at 5’7″, and the average height for women in

the United States is 5’4″. It’s another website saying that.

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Mike Ercolano (21:07):
All right. So, 5’4″, 170. Let’s see if I can figure this thing out. Let’s go to 170 and-

Kelly Krauss (21:16):
And the height’s 5’4″. This is exciting.

Mike Ercolano (21:23): 5’4″. It’s right here.

John Esposito (21:27):
What, is that going to be 33, 34?

Kelly Krauss (21:30):
It’s going to be up there.

Mike Ercolano (21:30):
It’s in between, yeah. It’s about 30. So-

John Esposito (21:33): Oh, 30. Okay, yeah.

Mike Ercolano (21:34):
I mean, I guess I could just have Googled the average BMI of…

Kelly Krauss (21:38):
No, it’s more to fun to watch you use this thing.

Mike Ercolano (21:40):
No, but my point of viewing this was because… So, the average, right, is right here. 5’4″, 170. Boom.

John Esposito (21:48): Yep.

Mike Ercolano (21:48):
All right, so now if every year it just creeps up by one pound. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Whatever. All

right, but the average person gained 29 pounds. So, that brings it up close to 190.

John Esposito (22:01): 190.

Mike Ercolano (22:02):

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. All the way to 190, which now puts them close to the obese range. All right, so the average female, the average American female, was already on the borderline of being overweight and was probably going to get there according to the statistics.

Kelly Krauss (22:19): Right.

Mike Ercolano (22:21):

But they accelerated how many? 29, 28 times or whatever it is in one year, right? In one year. And the issue with that is, and we’ve talked about it a gazillion times and we’re going to continue to talk about it until things change, is that that right there is probably the biggest concern and cause, or the biggest concern we should have in this country, right? In terms of health, anyway. Because that is going to… If we look at economically, that’s going to put the biggest strain on our system, which is also starting to wane because nurses are quitting and being fired. But that’s a different topic.

Mike Ercolano (23:08):

But how many… If the average person is now going to be obese or close to obese after this pandemic, what’s going to happen when the next generation catches up to this and, essentially, 80% of the country is obese? 70% of the country is obese. What’s going to happen then? Where are we going to be at as a society, right?

Mike Ercolano (23:34):

And, I mean, in my opinion, that’s where they want us to be. They want us to be reliant on drugs and healthcare and that’s where the money’s at. But what’s going to change? If this past year didn’t change your mind about your health, what’s going to change?

Kelly Krauss (23:52):
Well, that’s what I’ve said. If this didn’t scare the shit out of you to get you thinking about your health

and being more serious about it nothing-

John Esposito (24:00): Nothing’s going to.

Kelly Krauss (24:01): … nothing will.

Mike Ercolano (24:02): No.

Kelly Krauss (24:03):
I think, and then when people started hearing that even healthy people… Because you assume those people on ventilators were people who were heavy, who smoked, who didn’t exercise, who didn’t eat
right. But then you were also hearing about those that were physically fit and stuff. That was like, “Oh,


John Esposito (24:20): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (24:20):
But even more so… You definitely heard more so of the ones who were unhealthy.

John Esposito (24:27): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (24:27):
Of course. And those are just sensationalized cases that unfortunately do happen. And it doesn’t… That

happens with every disease and virus and issue. Yes, it happens, and it’s sad. And I’m sorry it happens.

Mike Ercolano (24:43):

A friend of mine’s friend… A friend of mine’s good friend who I met died from a heart issue. He was probably late thirties, early forties. He got COVID, went to the hospital, came home, then died of a heart issue. They called it a widowmaker. They said that it was due to COVID.

Mike Ercolano (25:00):

Now, he already had that issue. It’s not like he had a healthy heart and COVID came in and killed him. He had that heart issue that COVID exposed and probably accelerated it. That would have happened when he was maybe 65 or 60 or… Yes, that sucks. It’s really, really sad. It’s really… But the fact is, the average person who, or the person who died of COVID, was overweight, obese. 80%.

Kelly Krauss (25:29):
Or had other underlying conditions.

Mike Ercolano (25:31):
Almost three. Or I think it’s over three now. I think they pushed it up over three. I’m trying to find… I’m

on the… The CDC’s website is very a pain in the ass.

John Esposito (25:42): To navigate? Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (25:44):
Yeah. But anyway, I think it’s over three the last time I saw. So, the average person who died of COVID or

died with COVID was 80 years old and had three-

John Esposito (25:59): Underlying health condition?

Mike Ercolano (26:01):

Comorbidities. These issues that will kill them. So, we got to understand the numbers that we’re looking at. And we got to understand the facts and the statistics. And I only say this because I know I have to say this right now. This is not an anti-vax rant. I’m not trying to say don’t take the vaccine. If you feel like it’s going to make you safe, then take it. If you don’t feel like it’s going to make you safe, then don’t take it. That is your choice. And you don’t have to tell me, I don’t want to know. I don’t care.

Mike Ercolano (26:30):

All right, this is not about that. All right? This is about the fact that this is an issue that is completely in our control, right? This is a lifestyle issue. It’s completely in our control as a society. And no matter how you look at it, like I’ve started to say before, whether it’s economically, it’s going to put a huge strain on it. Whether it’s socially, think about the amount of depression, the amount of…

Mike Ercolano (26:52):

I mean, we see suicides going up every year. That’s not changing, that’s not ending. We see drug use going up every year. That’s not changing, that’s not ending. These are all symptoms of a failing society, or of a dying society, and these are all symptoms that could be cured through a little bit of exercise and a little bit of-

John Esposito (27:20): Proper nutrition?

Mike Ercolano (27:21):
Well… Right. I mean, that’s not even that hard, right? I wasn’t even going to say proper nutrition, I was

just going to say paying a little bit closer attention to what you eat. Not eating the super-size meal.

Kelly Krauss (27:33): Right.

John Esposito (27:33): Yeah, go for the small.

Mike Ercolano (27:35):

One of my clients who has Asperger’s. He’s a functioning, great adult. He’s a great guy. He’s got Asperger’s and so sometimes you have to talk to him on a different level and keep it more simple. And so, we’re talking about his diet and he goes to a sandwich shop every day at lunch and gets his extra large sandwich. So we said, “Let’s cut it down to the medium sandwich.”

Mike Ercolano (28:06):

Go every day, I don’t care. They have that medium sandwich. I talked to his mom the other day and his mom said he was going three days a week. He’s on his own, and now he’s eating protein and veggies only at night with his meal. This is not anything I talked to him about, but it-

Kelly Krauss (28:24):

That’s so great.

Mike Ercolano (28:24):

Just because we kept it simple. We kept it simple, and it doesn’t have to be complicated, right? It doesn’t have to be this scary thing. Weight loss doesn’t have to be a scary thing, getting healthier. But the solution isn’t in whatever drug comes out next to fix whatever the next problem is. That is not the solution.

Mike Ercolano (28:44):

I know we go there almost all the time on the show, but I think it’s our duty to do that because there’s not enough real information being spewed. And I say spewed because it’s all garbage. It’s all propaganda bullshit. There’s not enough people talking about the real truth about how to be healthy and how to not die from COVID, statistically speaking.

John Esposito (29:11):
It’s just a whole bunch of small steps. Not really… Just you don’t have to make any big leaps, no big


Kelly Krauss (29:16):
Right, right, right. Right, exactly.

John Esposito (29:16):
It’s just one little tiny thing at a time. Go out for a walk more than you would a week.

Kelly Krauss (29:21):

And also pay attention to yourself. Why are you overeating? You have to address those issues because they’re not going to go away. You can take a magic pill, sure. But once you stop taking that magic pill, you haven’t addressed the issue as to why you have the habits you have.

Kelly Krauss (29:35):

And, sure, it’s uncomfortable, it’s scary. But I think you feel better about yourself once you start making these changes and start identifying with yourself and saying, “Hey, I had a stressful day at work. Let me go for a walk instead of sit down and eat dinner right away.” Or…

Mike Ercolano (29:49):

Well, it’s proven. I mean, it’s a fact that it changes your chemistry. Your depression is lessened, anxiety is lessened. It never goes away, especially if you’re someone who’s diagnosed with it who actually has a chemical thing, it doesn’t go away. But exercise does lessen all of that.

Kelly Krauss (30:08): Absolutely.

Mike Ercolano (30:09):

Exercise makes you a more productive human being in life. If you want to talk about protecting the people around you… All right, no, you can’t spread fat to somebody else, of course, but you could absolutely spread your unhealthy lifestyle around to other people. You could definitely spread your own depression and your own-

Kelly Krauss (30:34): Negativity.

Mike Ercolano (30:34):
… negativity to other people. You could be a burden in people’s lives. And as blunt as that is, we could all

be that. We could all fall into that. You’re either a burden or you’re…

Mike Ercolano (30:50):
I don’t know what the opposite of burden is. You’re helping somebody or-

Kelly Krauss (30:53): Part of the solution?

Mike Ercolano (30:53):

Part of their life. We all have those people. They’re either negative energy or positive energy in our life. And unfortunately, sometimes those negative energies are family. We can’t do anything about that, but I know I’m doing everything I can to cut out negative energy in my life that I can, that I could choose to cut out.

John Esposito (31:13): Of course.

Mike Ercolano (31:14):
I have people who are drains on me I’m not necessarily associating with any more. And it’s not because I dislike them as people, but they’re a drain on me.

John Esposito (31:26): It’s for your own sake.

Mike Ercolano (31:27):

And someone who doesn’t take care of their health and someone who doesn’t pay attention to what their role is as a human being and actually puts themselves or puts their health as a precedent, doesn’t really have the same values as I do.

Mike Ercolano (31:45):

And again, I have people who I’m really good friends with who are overweight, but they’re trying really hard, right? They’re working. It’s not like I’m fat shaming anybody here, I’m just trying to draw a conclusion to… How many people who are miserable would be helped if they put exercise in their life?

Kelly Krauss (32:10):


Mike Ercolano (32:11): And healthy eating.

John Esposito (32:13):
And it’s proven scientifically and practically.

Mike Ercolano (32:16):
Right. You want to follow the science? There’s the science. The science is there. The science has been

there for a long time, all right.

John Esposito (32:22):
Research has proven it time and time again, that it lowers symptoms of depression, lowers symptoms of


Kelly Krauss (32:27):
Right, so follow the science, right? Hasn’t that been the saying over the past 18 months? Well, there it is.

Mike Ercolano (32:32):
Right, well that’s become a cult thing.

Kelly Krauss (32:34): Too lazy.

Mike Ercolano (32:35):

That’s become a cult thing now in my opinion. Follow the science. That’s like an identity almost. A lot of people who like to use that, it’s almost like their whole being has been bought into that image. Or that it’s like a religion in my view, as science is now religion. Science is… Not science itself, but the concept of science is used as religion now. And I think it’s become very politicized, and science can’t be really trusted anymore either. But that’s neither here nor there, I guess. I don’t know.

Kelly Krauss (33:16): Mm-hmm (affirmative).

John Esposito (33:22):

I agree. There’s too many benefits to not include some fitness into your life, whether it’s something simple like a walk, or whether it’s getting into a gym once a week. It’s better than nothing. It’s better than not moving. It’s better than not going out and doing something. Even just getting sunlight helps with all those mental symptoms. And that’s proven as well. That’s proven through practice.

Mike Ercolano (33:44):
Well, yeah. I mean, that’s, again, another proven way to lessen the symptoms of COVID is D3, right? Or

at least they tie together, vitamin D3 and the symptoms of COVID.

Mike Ercolano (34:02):

So, I don’t know. I don’t know how I got off that rant again, talking about this shit. It’s just frustrating. It’s frustrating because there’s a lot of fingers being pointed in a lot of directions that they shouldn’t be pointed at. And in the past, I don’t think they would have.

Mike Ercolano (34:24):

Just think back to 2018, 2019. Just think if in 2018 or ’19 places were stopping people from eating at their restaurant because they didn’t have a certain vaccine? In the name of health, right? That would never be going on back then. It would never be going on back then. Never. Right? We would think it’s crazy. If another country was doing that?

Kelly Krauss (34:50): Right.

Mike Ercolano (34:53):

We don’t even see the shit that’s happening in Australia and Canada right now. That shit’s crazy. But if in 2018, if another country was banning people from eating at their restaurants because they didn’t have a vaccine… Anyway, they’d be holding fucking rallies and having GoFundMes for the people with vaccine discrimination in Australia or something like that. Right? It would be completely different thing. But anyway.

Kelly Krauss (35:27):
It’d be a different time for sure.

John Esposito (35:28): Absolutely.

Mike Ercolano (35:29):
Anyway. One thing you can control is, obviously, your health and that’s where we were going with this,


John Esposito (35:37):
Yeah, take control of your health. Get some ownership of it. Make a change, even if it’s a small change.

One step at a time.

Kelly Krauss (35:43): Yep.

John Esposito (35:44):
And it’s just only going to better you, not worsen your life.

Kelly Krauss (35:48):

And nobody’s ever said I’ve regretted doing that workout or that walk. Nobody’s ever said that, so force yourself to go outside and go for that walk. It’ll be worth it.

John Esposito (35:58):
Mm-hmm (affirmative). If you can commit to it and you keep yourself consistent with it, there’s not

going to be any regrets. It’s going to be all benefit.

Mike Ercolano (36:04): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (36:06):
Mike, you’re going to get your flu shot?

Mike Ercolano (36:07):
No. I have never gotten it. I’ve never gotten it before, and I don’t see why I’ll get it now.

John Esposito (36:14):
I haven’t gotten it the past few years. I don’t know if that’s fitness-related, but I’ve just been feeling


Kelly Krauss (36:21):
Oh, you haven’t gotten the flu?

Mike Ercolano (36:22): Oh, the flu.

John Esposito (36:22):
Yeah, I haven’t gotten the flu shot either a few years.

Kelly Krauss (36:24): Oh, yeah?

John Esposito (36:24):
Yeah, just because I haven’t had any flu symptoms past couple of years.

Mike Ercolano (36:28):
Yeah, I got sick last year. I think it was COVID though. It was last-

Kelly Krauss (36:31):
That was February, I think. Right?

Mike Ercolano (36:32):
February. It was right before everything. So, I think that was COVID. But I don’t know, I just…

Kelly Krauss (36:39):
But let me ask you this. Have you guys had the flu?

John Esposito (36:42): Yeah in the past.

Kelly Krauss (36:43): So, how bad was it?

Mike Ercolano (36:44):
I had it once in the past five year.

John Esposito (36:47):
I mean, I had the flu for four day spanned. It wasn’t terrible. Obviously, it didn’t feel good. My body felt

like it was achy, but it wasn’t anything past that.

Kelly Krauss (36:57): Right.

Mike Ercolano (36:58):
Yeah. From what I can remember, the flu kicked my ass last time, but-

Kelly Krauss (37:00): Oh, it sucks.

John Esposito (37:01): Oh, absolutely.

Mike Ercolano (37:02): I didn’t die.

John Esposito (37:03): No.

Mike Ercolano (37:03): I’m still here.

Kelly Krauss (37:03):
But it’s putting your body through that, I think, is a win on the side of immunity and the side of health.

Mike Ercolano (37:11):

Well, I mean, here’s the thing about immunity is that there’s… Once you’re exposed to a virus, your body has the memory cells of that immunity to that. So even if your antibodies are quote-unquote not there anymore, as soon as you’re exposed to the virus again, right? Those antibodies will kick back in. Now, obviously there’s different variants, just like we know all the shit, the Delta or whatever, and the different strands of flu every year and all this stuff. But once you’ve been exposed to it, your body has a memory to be able to fight that off again, even if you don’t have the antibodies anymore. Even then.

Mike Ercolano (37:51):

So, there’s a lot of misinformation about that. And all you have to do is look at the studies that have come out of Israel right now on COVID that show that it’s significantly higher immunity to it if you’ve already had it versus having the vaccine.

Kelly Krauss (38:09): Right.

John Esposito (38:10): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (38:10):

And that’s science. That is science. That is proven science, but yet you’re still not allowed to be exempt from the vaccine even if you show that you’ve had it. Because they’re using antibodies as a way, which is just not scientifically and factually true. Because, yes, antibodies are there after you’re exposed, but your body has cells in that remember, and when you’re exposed again you have a lesser reaction to it. Right? Even if it is a different strain. Which is why they talk about the flu shot and, yes, you should get it because it might lessen your symptoms even if it is a different strain. It’s the same shit. It’s all the same shit. But if you’re not healthy, it’s going to suck anyway, right?

Kelly Krauss (38:57):
Yeah, it’s going to be even worse.

Mike Ercolano (38:58):
It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter. If you’re overweight and obese and if it’s… Again, we said it the last

podcast, we’ll say it again.

Mike Ercolano (39:05):

If it’s not COVID, if it’s not the flu, if it’s not whatever other shit has wiped out people in this world… If it’s not one of those, it’s going to be the next thing, because your health is the center stone for everything. And that’s something you can control. We’re just going the wrong direction as society.

Kelly Krauss (39:28):
Yep, totally. Well, we’re good.

John Esposito (39:31): Yes, we are.

Kelly Krauss (39:32):

My family’s good.

Mike Ercolano (39:32):
Yeah, yeah. And, like you said, there’s always those extremes. Point at the finger of look at the guy

who’s out running marathons every day and he died of a heart attack and whatever. Yeah.

John Esposito (39:45): There’s outliers in everything.

Mike Ercolano (39:46): Right. We’re all going to die.

John Esposito (39:47): You can’t just go off on-

Mike Ercolano (39:47): We’re all going to die.

John Esposito (39:47): Right. Exactly, exactly.

Mike Ercolano (39:50):
So, we want to live our lives fighting, and we want to live our lives trying to be the best we can. Or we

want to live our lives-

Kelly Krauss (39:57):
And feeling the best you can, right?

Mike Ercolano (39:58):
And even more importantly, feeling the best you can.

John Esposito (40:00): Absolutely.

Mike Ercolano (40:01):

So, if you’re on that scale, unfortunately, of the 29 pound increase, do something about it now. Don’t wait. It’s going to suck the longer you wait, it’s going to get harder and it’s going to get harder and then eventually you’re not going to do it. Don’t put it off. Start tomorrow. Start tonight. Start as soon as you get done listening to this show. Go out for a walk or do some jumping jacks or do something and start today. Start immediately. Don’t wait till Monday, because Monday will always be pushed back to the following Monday.

John Esposito (40:40):

Make that commitment to yourself.

Mike Ercolano (40:42):

Right. If you dangle that carrot, you’ll always chase that carrot. But you got to take a bite of it right now. I don’t know. I don’t know how to change that analogy to make it get it. But yeah, get it. Do something. Start moving.

John Esposito (41:00): I like that.

Mike Ercolano (41:01): Do you?

John Esposito (41:02): culture.

Mike Ercolano (41:02): Do you like that?

John Esposito (41:03):
Chase the carrot. Get a bit of it.

Kelly Krauss (41:05):
Yeah. Let’s stick with that one.

Mike Ercolano (41:08):
All right, yeah. So, if you’re over… Well, I mean, don’t bite the carrot though, because we’re trying to

make you lose weight. So…

John Esposito (41:14): True.

Mike Ercolano (41:15):
If you’re… Well, no, a carrot’s healthy though.

Kelly Krauss (41:16):
Well, what are you talking about?

Mike Ercolano (41:16):
We’re not telling you not to eat.

Kelly Krauss (41:16):

Carrots are good.

Mike Ercolano (41:16): Yeah, all right.

Kelly Krauss (41:16):
It’s the candy bar. You don’t want to eat the candy bar.

Mike Ercolano (41:21):
Oh, yeah. Halloween coming up.

John Esposito (41:23): Don’t chase the candy bar.

Mike Ercolano (41:24):
My really show on that.

Kelly Krauss (41:24):
What’s your favorite candy?

John Esposito (41:27): Oh.

Mike Ercolano (41:28): Probably Reese’s, I guess.

Kelly Krauss (41:30): Peanut Butter Cups?

Mike Ercolano (41:31): Yeah, probably.

Kelly Krauss (41:31): Little or the full one?

John Esposito (41:31): Boring.

Mike Ercolano (41:33):
No, I actually like the dark chocolate thins.

Kelly Krauss (41:36):
Oh, yes, I’ll give you that.

John Esposito (41:37):

Oh, yeah.

Mike Ercolano (41:38):
I could pop those like fucking candy.

Kelly Krauss (41:39): Are they frozen?

Mike Ercolano (41:40):
No, I don’t like them frozen.

John Esposito (41:42):
I’m a Sour Patch Kid sort of guy.

Kelly Krauss (41:45):
I tell my kids that’s such cancer candy.

John Esposito (41:46):
I know it is, but it’s just so good.

Kelly Krauss (41:49): Are you serious?

John Esposito (41:50): I love Sour Patch Kids.

Kelly Krauss (41:50):
I really thought people grew out of the Sour Patch phase.

John Esposito (41:54): Nope.

Mike Ercolano (41:54):
I like the Sour Patch weed gummies.

Kelly Krauss (41:55): Oh.

John Esposito (41:58): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (41:59): Yeah. We get those.

John Esposito (42:02):
That’s interesting. Yeah, I like my Sour Patch.

Kelly Krauss (42:03):
Are you a gummy type person? Gummy bears, gummy worms.

John Esposito (42:07):
Yeah, gummy bears used to be my favorite thing when I was younger.

Kelly Krauss (42:09): Really?

John Esposito (42:09): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (42:11): .

Mike Ercolano (42:11): I’m a chocolate guy.

Kelly Krauss (42:11): Yeah, me too.

John Esposito (42:12):
If it was chocolate, it would have to be a Baby Ruth bar. I love my Baby Ruths.

Mike Ercolano (42:15): With all the nuts in it?

Kelly Krauss (42:16):
You know what that looks like.

Mike Ercolano (42:18):
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Well, on that note, I guess we should end the show considering we just ranted

for 30 minutes about losing weight and now we’re going to talk about candy 

Kelly Krauss (42:27):

Mike Ercolano (42:31):
No, that’s true. Because we can in moderation right.

Kelly Krauss (42:34):
Balance. It’s all about balance.

John Esposito (42:34):
At least we talked about 90 degree eccentrics at one point too.

Mike Ercolano (42:36): That is true.

Kelly Krauss (42:38):
We could dangle… You’re at the 90 degree squat, right? And then you’re dangling the Reese’s Pieces in

front of your face. Don’t bite the-

Mike Ercolano (42:44): The Reese’s Pieces?

Kelly Krauss (42:45):
Don’t bite… Oh, the Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup.

Mike Ercolano (42:47):
Just dangling one Reese’s. How are you going to thread that up? You going to wrap it around?

Kelly Krauss (42:52):
I don’t know. I might have to take out the glue gun.

Mike Ercolano (42:54): Mm.

John Esposito (42:54): Mm.

Kelly Krauss (42:55): To make that happen.

Mike Ercolano (42:55):
Make sure it’s a non-toxic glue.

Mike Ercolano (43:00): Perfect.

Kelly Krauss (43:01): That’s what I’ll do.

Mike Ercolano (43:02): Melt down one of mine.

Kelly Krauss (43:03): Yeah, okay. Even better.

Mike Ercolano (43:06):
All right. Well, I am officially out of time, so-

John Esposito (43:08): Ending that rant.

Mike Ercolano (43:09): Yeah, we’re ending it there.

Kelly Krauss (43:11): That was fun.

Mike Ercolano (43:11):
But thank you again, guys, for listening to this episode. Episode number 35. Please do us a favor. Share

the show, like it, comment, leave a review. I don’t know why-

John Esposito (43:25): Give us suggestions.

Mike Ercolano (43:27):
… I don’t ever talk about in the beginning of the show… Planning ahead. I don’t ever why I don’t plan to-

Kelly Krauss (43:32): The closing?

Mike Ercolano (43:33):
… know what to actually say because I don’t even know what you’re supposed to do. But help us out a

little bit. We appreciate it.

Bye, guys.

Kelly Krauss (43:42): I don’t-

Mike Ercolano (43:42):
You have something to say?

Kelly Krauss (43:43):
No, I’m just saying I don’t think you have to tell people all that stuff. When you listen to podcasts, are

you listening to them rant and rave? Rant at the end about liking us?

Mike Ercolano (43:52): Yeah.

John Esposito (43:52): I think most times-

Kelly Krauss (43:53): The whole thing?

John Esposito (43:53):
I think most times they hear it in the beginning.

Mike Ercolano (43:55):
Most times in the beginning-

Kelly Krauss (43:56): It’s usually scripted.

Mike Ercolano (43:56): … and/or at the end.

John Esposito (43:57): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (43:57): Yeah.

Kelly Krauss (43:58):
And you listen to that every time you listen to the same podcast? You listen to that every time?


John Esposito (44:02):
You get this, “Thank you to our promoters,” or “Thank you to our sponsors.”

Mike Ercolano (44:08):
Yeah, I listen to it. Or I just skip past 30 seconds.

John Esposito (44:10): Yeah.

Mike Ercolano (44:12): So…

Kelly Krauss (44:13): All right.

Mike Ercolano (44:13):
And, supposedly, it helps significantly. Asking people to do it significantly helps.

Kelly Krauss (44:19):
Right. I’m just saying it could be a quick, “Like our podcast. Comment. We always love to hear from you.”

Mike Ercolano (44:25):
Well, yeah. Well, that’s what I mean. I never know what to say, so I always drag it on. That’s my whole

point of this is that I don’t know how to end it. But man, I should really do a better-

Kelly Krauss (44:34):
Okay. I guess my point was it should be short and sweet.

Mike Ercolano (44:35):
Well, right. And I should do a better job of it. That was the point of what I was saying is that I got to do a

better job of the closing.

Kelly Krauss (44:42): Okay.

Mike Ercolano (44:43): Yes. All right, so now-

Kelly Krauss (44:45):
Well, now that we’ve cleared that up.

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Now that we’ve… Yes. Like the show. Bye.